Episode 5 | Our Journey Out of the Institutional Church

Welcome to Episode five of the Ekklesia Podcast! The is the first episode in our new home at The Ekklesia Podcast. My wife Susan joins me again for this episode as we talk about our journey out of the institutional church setting and into a more authentic and genuine experience of the ekklesia. We both hit a wall of performance Christianity in 2009 which started us on this journey we’re still on today. The notion of leaving the institutional church was foreign to us until we hit a wall of performance – and we hit it hard! After all, I was a pastor in institutional churches for 20+ years. Why would I leave when I was the one leading?

Join our conversation as we recount what that experience was like and what it continues to be like as we discover a fresh way to live apart from institutional obligations.



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